{"id":1221,"date":"2010-12-07T20:13:38","date_gmt":"2010-12-08T02:13:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/2010\/12\/07\/is-a-future-millennium-pointless\/"},"modified":"2010-12-15T22:31:54","modified_gmt":"2010-12-15T22:31:54","slug":"is-a-future-millennium-pointless","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/2010\/12\/07\/is-a-future-millennium-pointless\/","title":{"rendered":"Is a Future Millennium Pointless?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve read most of I. Howard Marshall&#8217;s <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0830827951\/713713713-20\">New Testament Theology<\/a><\/em> in the last few months as I&#8217;ve done my NT arguments because I find his insights valuable.&#160; He is a very good scholar and I certainly recommend the book to all students of Scripture.&#160; I don&#8217;t agree with him on everything, but I&#8217;m not reading him to confirm what I believe.&#160; But this statement in his section on <a href=\"http:\/\/ref.ly\/rev20.1-6\">Revelation 20<\/a> just confounds me:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>A more or less literal interpretation of this millennium seems to be ruled out because of the problems of determining where the nations come from and because a temporary kingdom of Christ seems utterly pointless (558).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It is nice that he acknowledges that he is rejecting the literal interpretation.&#160; Too many scholars pretend that their non-literal interpretation is just as literal as one that interprets the text according to history and grammar, as we do any other text.<\/p>\n<p>But it is disappointing that he rules out a literal interpretation because of these two problems.&#160; The other views that he is willing to entertain (later in the paragraph) have problems, as he admits.&#160; But, he says:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>it seems to me that the hypothesis of the temporary millennial kingdom is rather more problematic and should probably be dropped from the discussion (559).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I do have answers for each of his two problems that I think are rather simple, straightforward, and entirely in keeping with the message of the book of Revelation.<\/p>\n<p>First, he cannot figure out where the nations come from because he says that &#8220;everybody has died and only God&#8217;s people have been resurrected with Christ&#8221; (558).&#160; But clearly everyone has not died because the reason why the dragon is thrown into the Abyss is in order &#8220;to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore.&#8221;&#160; Those who were killed in the battle in chapter 19 are Christ&#8217;s enemies, not his followers.&#160; It is these followers who could potentially be deceived and thus are isolated from Satan.<\/p>\n<p>Second, I have a three-word response to Marshall&#8217;s conclusion that a &#8220;temporary&#8221; (i.e., 1,000-year!) kingdom of Christ &#8220;seems utterly pointless&#8221;: the Old Testament.<\/p>\n<p>Is it &#8220;utterly pointless&#8221; that Jesus reigns on the throne of David over the <a href=\"http:\/\/ref.ly\/Ps110\">kingdom<\/a> he was <a href=\"http:\/\/ref.ly\/Ps2\">promised<\/a> in order to pour out <a href=\"http:\/\/ref.ly\/Am9.11-15\">blessings<\/a> upon <a href=\"http:\/\/ref.ly\/jer31.35-37\">Israel<\/a> and the <a href=\"http:\/\/ref.ly\/isa66\">world<\/a>?&#160; Is it &#8220;utterly pointless&#8221; that God honor his word to his people?&#160; Marshall might respond that there&#8217;s no need for this &#8220;temporary kingdom&#8221; because all of these promises can be fulfilled in the new heavens and new earth.&#160; Why mess around with a 1,000-year-period when you can get straight to the good stuff?<\/p>\n<p>I have two replies.&#160; First, Revelation says that there is a period of 1,000 years.&#160; I didn&#8217;t make this up nor did Darby or Scofield.&#160; Why not let the text form our theology, even if it doesn&#8217;t seem logical to us?&#160; Second, does Marshall (and the many who hold a similar view) believe that God&#8217;s promises are literally fulfilled in the eternal state?&#160; If they did, I&#8217;d be less traumatized.&#160; The fact is that they not only spiritualize away the millennial kingdom, but they spiritualize away all of God&#8217;s blessings to Israel.&#160; I suppose when you have no promises left for Israel, then an earthly millennium is indeed &#8220;utterly pointless.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>If you want just one passage to read, look at <a href=\"http:\/\/ref.ly\/zech14\">Zechariah 14<\/a>.&#160; This chapter is not difficult to understand and it establishes that after the Lord (Jesus) returns and defeats his enemies, there are &#8220;survivors all from the nations&#8221; who go up to worship the King in Jerusalem, and if they do not they are afflicted with a plague.&#160; This passage cannot be speaking about the present day, because I&#8217;ve been to Jerusalem before and Jesus is not king there.&#160; And it can&#8217;t be speaking about the eternal state where every tear is wiped away if people are being afflicted by plagues.&#160; It would seem to fit perfectly into a &#8220;temporary&#8221; period in between the two.&#160; <\/p>\n<p>You can follow Marshall and apply Wite-Out to the six mentions of the &#8220;thousand years&#8221; in Revelation 20, but if you do that, you &#8216;re going to need an Exacto knife to cut out Zechariah 14.&#160; For that matter, if you plan to start poking around much in the OT, I recommend you just go ahead and invest in a paper cutter.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve read most of I. 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