{"id":1258,"date":"2011-01-27T23:15:12","date_gmt":"2011-01-28T05:15:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/2011\/01\/27\/the-prophets-predictions\/"},"modified":"2011-01-27T23:15:12","modified_gmt":"2011-01-28T05:15:12","slug":"the-prophets-predictions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/2011\/01\/27\/the-prophets-predictions\/","title":{"rendered":"The Prophets&rsquo; Predictions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Everything about the following sentence is wrong.&#160; For analysis, I &#8216;ll break it down into phrases, but it&#8217;s all one sentence.&#160; From Bruce Waltke, <em>An Old Testament Theology<\/em>, page 824:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>The prophets &#8216; predictions embrace <\/p>\n<p>a beginning of fulfillment in Israel&#8217;s restoration from the exile,<\/p>\n<p>a victorious fulfillment in the church age stretching from Christ&#8217;s first advent to his Parousia,<\/p>\n<p>and a consummation in the eschatological new heaven and earth when Christ&#8217;s kingdom becomes coextensive with his creation.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I &#8216;ll take my first statement back: I have no objection to the first four words of the sentence.&#160; But after that, it&#8217;s a complete disaster.<\/p>\n<p>First, were the prophets &#8216; predictions fulfilled in <strong>Israel&#8217;s return to exile<\/strong>?&#160; In response, I would recommend you read <em>any<\/em> of the post-exilic books.&#160; The clear message of the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi is that the prophecies <em>weren&#8217;t<\/em> being fulfilled.&#160; The problem was not God&#8217;s faithfulness but the people&#8217;s response.&#160; Nevertheless, the prophets encouraged them that <em>though they did not see the prophecies of restoration being fulfilled<\/em>, God would still keep his promises.&#160; Therefore, obey!<\/p>\n<p>Second, Waltke suggests that the prophet&#8217;s predictions have enjoyed a &#8220;<strong>victorious fulfillment in the church age<\/strong>.&#8221;&#160; Now, setting aside for the moment <em>every single thing that those prophets said<\/em>, I just have to ask, where is this victory?&#160; I don&#8217;t want to put the church down, and I know that the Lord is working faithfully in it every day, but I emphatically <em>do not see<\/em>, <em>now or ever in the church&#8217;s history<\/em>, anything that God would call a victory.&#160; The church was in awful shape from the time of Corinth to the letters of Revelation through the Middle Ages until today.&#160; You could argue that while the &#8220;professing church&#8221; is a miserable failure (think everything from &#8220;Crusades&#8221; to Joel Osteen&#8217;s megachurch), the true church is the &#8220;victorious fulfillment.&#8221;&#160; And while those who have been saved and made a part of the body of Christ have infinite reason to rejoice, it&#8217;s a distant cry from what the prophets foretold.&#160; Besides all of this, it might be observed that Paul explicitly said that the prophets <em>didn&#8217;t foretell<\/em> the church, as its existence was a mystery made known first to the apostles (Eph 3).<\/p>\n<p>Finally, you think I could at least agree with Waltke that the promises of the prophets will be fulfilled in the &#8220;<strong>consummation in the eschatological new heaven and earth<\/strong>.&#8221;&#160; Alas, the irony is that while Waltke suggests <em>three<\/em> periods of fulfillment for the glorious words of guys like Isaiah and Ezekiel and Zechariah, he fails to mention the <em>one<\/em> period when these prophecies actually <em>will be <\/em>fulfilled!&#160; Of course, I am speaking of the time when Jesus &#8220;will be king over the whole earth&#8221; and when the city of Jerusalem will be re-named &#8220;the Lord is there&#8221; and the nations will stream up to the holy city where the Messiah will &#8220;comfort all who mourn&#8221; (Zech 14:9; Ezek 48:35; Isa 2:2; 61:2).<\/p>\n<p>How can Waltke and I disagree so severely?&#160; Very simply: he believes that the OT prophecies must be &#8220;<strong>spiritualized, transcendentalized, eschatologized, and typified<\/strong>.&#8221;&#160; But I observe that all the prophecies in the past were fulfilled &#8220;normally, literally, and according to the way that all sensible people read words,&#8221; and Waltke would agree with that.&#160; (Jesus was born in Bethlehem, ministered in Galilee, was crucified and resurrected, etc.)&#160; It&#8217;s only the prophecies that have not yet been fulfilled that must be &#8220;spiritualized.&#8221;&#160; That leaves you playing hopskotch in the prophets, with one verse being fulfilled literally and the next one being fulfilled spiritually, and the one after that being literal, etc.&#160; He thinks that spiritualizing them makes them better.&#160; I say that it not only does it make them worse, but it steals them from the people to whom they were promised.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Everything about the following sentence is wrong.&#160; For analysis, I &#8216;ll break it down into phrases, but it&#8217;s all one sentence.&#160; From Bruce Waltke, An Old Testament Theology, page 824: The prophets &#8216; predictions embrace a beginning of fulfillment in Israel&#8217;s restoration from the exile, a victorious fulfillment in the church age stretching from Christ&#8217;s\u2026 <span class=\"read-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/2011\/01\/27\/the-prophets-predictions\/\">Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22,32],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1258","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-isaiah","category-prophets-besides-isaiah"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1258","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1258"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1258\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1258"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1258"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/toddbolen.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1258"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}